‘The US has not been this divided since the 60s’: of Slipknot Corey Taylor on how to save America

Don’t be afraid of Donald Trump

He is so ineffective. Everyone was worried about the crazy things he would do, but there is nothing he has done that can not be changed in any other administration, as the Paris agreement. No need to panic. Too many – I don’t want to say liberal lambasts – are hitting the panic button too quickly, instead of bringing up issues and talking about them. For me it is really a case of: what’s happening with the senators, what happens at the local level?

Sure, Trump is the tea, and everyone wants to talk about the return of Nuremberg after the Boy Scout rally, but whatever. People forget: that he has not done a shit. He is really not. Even with his party in control of both houses, nothing has happened. He has not fulfilled one promise.

What, then, am I scared? I think people need to calm down, and keep fighting the illogical with logic. He won by the smallest of margins. And, honestly, that was only on a technicality. It sucks as you have to remember yourself, because you’re going to try to paint a completely different picture. The rhetoric swirling around. If there is only an interconnection of devices to look back in time to see what is the truth and the reality was! I say that with all the sarcasm in the world.

‘He has not fulfilled one promise… of Donald Trump. Photograph: Jim Watson/AFP/Getty Images

Toxic masculinity has been in the united states forever

It is only because of this presidency, that we are getting a very good taste of it. In a culture that is misogynist, there is a mistaken idea that to do good things for people, and trying to take care of them, is a “pussy move”. The result is a lot of people pumping their chests and talking shit about women, talking shit about gay people, talking shit on all over the world. They feel threatened; their way of life feels threatened.

Much of this has to do with the fact that the liberal party and the LGBT community is coming to them fast and loose with concepts that are not used; they are not part of their culture, and yet they are being forced to accept. There is liberal fascism in response to the conservatives of fascism, and is to keep the good people in the middle scratching their heads and thinking: I don’t know what to believe. And part of that reaction is this pumped-up male middle finger: “You don’t tell me how to live my life.” Is his mind balking at the fact that they may have to accept something when they have not had the opportunity to understand what it is.

For many years they have been in control of what is culturally accepted, and all the LGBT community is trying to change them, because they are tired of being marginalized, tired of being treated as a perversion. It is very similar to a war. I lived through the Reagan years, and I grew up during the gas shortage, I grew up watching some serious shit go down. But I don’t think that the country has been divided since the 1960s.

‘I’m just as qualified for the senate as he is, that is to say, not at all” … Kid Rock. Photo: Getty

Celebrities: stop the execution of a senate

Kid Rock is running for the senate, and I am just as qualified as he is, that is to say, not at all. It is the same as the Rock I love the idea of him saying that he wants to run for president, but they are only another pair of voices that can “do it”, and look where that got us.

Still there are many cabinet positions that have not been filled in this administration, because the Triumph is completely overwhelmed. And this is a man who apparently knows how to run a business. Then, what the hell is kid Rock going to do? It is the greatest form of ego that I have heard in my life. Please, go ahead. Driving a car with a blindfold and see how far you get.
Modern dating is gross

It carries out this madness of psychosis in all of us. At least on a blind date you have to kind of be yourself – they’re going to see the sweat, and I see that you are fighting. But the dating sites and apps put you at ease, and so all the gnarly little quirks and perversions out. Hey, if you bring monsters together, who am I to judge? I think everyone has someone in the street, and I would like to see the people gathered. But, are you really trying to find the love of your life on Grindr?

Romance is not dead, though. As long as there is hope in the romantic like me, I think that’s not going to die. We’re going to see an evolution of what romance means. There are still people who love to selfless acts. And if it is something as rare as a very cordial message on Twitter, for some people this is huge. For some people this is the ultimate act of romance.

‘I am the worst hypocrite” … Corey Taylor in his civvies.

We are addicted to our phones

I am the worst hypocrite because I bitch about this, but I’m just as bad as all the others. I’m walking around with this little tablet in my hand, and I look up and see that someone has asked me a question. It is so embarrassing. These devices are conducting all of the dopamine that I had lost during years of smoking and drinking and drugs, and I’m waiting to see what the hangover is going to feel the same. I don’t know what the impact is going to be, but perhaps we are beginning to see the end of the face-to-face, relations, and more and more people are comfortable with long distance relationships. Why do I have to touch anyone? All I need is my phone and this contact, and that is all that I need.
Don’t worry about the environment

My contribution to being eco-friendly is to stop smoking. I recycle. I have to do this and that. But all I can really worry about your own side of things. If you begin to think on a large scale, then you get overwhelmed. At the same time, I would like to think that we are trying to do the right thing and we are trying to get this planet on the right path; not the planet, but because of us. George Carlin nailed it 25 years ago. He said: “the planet is fine, the people are fucked!

The planet will be here long after we are gone. Don’t try and bullshit that we’re saving the planet – we are to save ourselves. We put a lot of emphasis on the planet, and not in the people, because we believe that it is more generous, but if people were more honest maybe it would be more with the climate change. I’m not trying to save shit. I don’t give a fuck about the planet – I just want to keep my children alive.
The music industry is like the wild west

The industry is trying to make peace with the streaming, which is to find a way to monetize it, but they are still screwing over artists. It is sad because I’m seeing a lot of bands quit because they can’t make a living. How are you supposed to make a life when it is taken completely out of their hands?

I am in a unique situation, because I’m in the old system, but in reality I am able to make a fairly decent living with the new system. I find it hard to bite the hand that feeds me. But at the same time I see all those other bands that can’t get a break. I don’t know what the answer is, to be honest. I’m happy for people that like Ed Sheeran – this guy worked on his ass, so why not get recognition? But at the same time, when their songs dominated [the letters] because of streaming, where is the justice? What about the other artists that have worked their ass off, but maybe didn’t have a million streams?

DJ Khaled, the Possibility of the Rapper, and Ed Sheeran… Corey Taylor is a fan of one of these men – the others, not so much. Photo: Jeff Kravitz/FilmMagic

Hip-hop has dethroned the rock’n’roll of the united states of music

I might have said this 20 years ago. The thing that bothers me is that people differentiate between pop and hip-hop, but they are the same thing. I hate most new hip-hop. It’s all the same mush-mouthed shit, and says nothing except “I want to fuck and drink champagne”. It is pathetic. The hip-hop I grew up with a message. There is a reason why Chuck D is my hero, let me put it that way.
The Artificial intelligence is taking over the world

A lot of people are upset because many of the manufacturing jobs are gone, but there are so many companies coming up that need a work force. There is a reason why the market is doing well in the united states, even though the presidency is a shit, since the previous presidency of reality, left behind a healthy infrastructure with the growth that is happening. Trump is going to try to take the credit for that, but there are always two or four-year hangover. The problem comes when you start to see the deregulation happening at the federal level when it comes to large companies, that is when computers come in, that is when the outsourcing of services.

But all of these insurance companies are hiring, all these technology companies are hiring. People look at the sectors of the industry and the go: I’m not smart or pretentious enough. But if you want to feed your family, then a job is a job. Sometimes you have to bite the bullet and go with what we have to do. Follow to where the work is. If the industries want to keep the outsourcing and placement of the people with the programs, then stop buying those products. Hit them where it hurts. That is what it comes down.

Corey Taylor on stage with Slipknot. Photo: Raphael Dias/Getty Images

All the world is appropriating metal culture

You are watching grandmothers in Slipknot t-shirts. It is really strange. This makes it easier for me to mix in that I am completely happy to do; you get tired of the looks after a while. But the punk and metallers to take the “fascist” of images like the shaved head and black clothing, and the divorce from racism and nationalism, to make a statement about disaffection; now you’re seeing people like Richard Spencer that not only the appropriation of images of nationalism, but also of the rhetoric. The anger, the racism. What I worry about. Oh, but Justin Bieber line in pseudo-metal t-shirts? He can kiss my ass.

Corey Taylor speaks to Harriet Gibsone. America 51 is out now, published by Da Capo. His new album with Stone Sour, Hydrograd, is now in the Roadrunner; the band on the uk tour begins at Birmingham Barclaycard Arena on November 29. The Slipknot documentary Day the Worm will screen at the national level, the 6 of September.